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Joint CRT and STS Teleconference Draft Agenda:
Attendees: Alan Goldfine, Alicia Clay, Allan Eustis, Angela Orbaugh, Bill Burr, David Flater, David Wagner, John Wack, Jon Crickenberger (NVLAP), Michael Koo, Nelson Hastings, Paul Miller, Philip Pearce, Ron Rivest, Thelma Allen, Wendy Havens, Rene Peralta No Administrative Items. CRT Issues (David Flater) The issues log being maintained by CRT contains over 273 issues, with 27 remaining open as of today. Many of the open items are regarding terminology waiting on feedback from Paul Miller. In order to make the deadline for final draft, the open issues need to be closed by Friday, June 15.
Next CRT meeting scheduled for Thursday, June 21. (Possibility it will be cancelled).
Next STS Meeting Tuesday, June 19th. Meeting adjourned at 12:30 p.m. [* Pursuant to the Help America Vote Act of 2002, the TGDC is charged with directing NIST in performing voting systems research so that the TGDC can fulfill its role of recommending technical standards for voting equipment to the EAC. This teleconference discussion served the purposes of the CRT subcommittee of the TGDC to direct NIST staff and coordinate its voting-related research relevant to the VVSG 2007. Discussions on this telecon are preliminary, pre-decisional and do not necessarily reflect the views of NIST or the TGDC.] *********** |
CRT Teleconference Draft Agenda:
Attendees: Alan Goldfine, Allan Eustis, David Flater, John Wack, Jon Crickenberger (NVLAP), Mat Masterson (EAC), Thelma Allen, Wendy Havens Administrative Updates:
Issues Received (David Flater): At the last meeting, it was decided that issues with terminology would be discussed with Paul Miller, CRT is awaiting feedback. Issues discussed today:
The issue log is currently about 165 pages, with 1 page per issue. David Flater has incorporated many comments and given tentative resolutions for many. To summarize the issues, most are editorial, lots of glossary terms, David Wagner had a lot on coding standards which were not serious modifications but clarified a lot of ambiguities. A lot of comments were received from Ron Rivest and David Wagner, we are awaiting comments from other TGDC members. Next meeting is scheduled for Thursday, June 14, 2007. Meeting adjourned at 11:30 a.m.
[* Pursuant to the Help America Vote Act of 2002, the TGDC is charged with directing NIST in performing voting systems research so that the TGDC can fulfill its role of recommending technical standards for voting equipment to the EAC. This teleconference discussion served the purposes of the CRT subcommittee of the TGDC to direct NIST staff and coordinate its voting-related research relevant to the VVSG 2007. Discussions on this telecon are preliminary, pre-decisional and do not necessarily reflect the views of NIST or the TGDC.] |
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CRT Teleconference Draft Agenda:
Attendees: Alan Goldfine, Allan Eustis, Brit Williams, David Flater, John Wack, Jon Crickenberger (NVLAP), Michael Koo, Nelson Hastings, Sharon Laskowski Administrative Updates:
Specific Issues on CRT Chapters Received from TGDC Members and Public (David Flater): Open Issues:
Closed Issues:
Next CRT meeting scheduled for Thursday, June 8, 2007. Meeting adjourned at 11:50 a.m. [* Pursuant to the Help America Vote Act of 2002, the TGDC is charged with directing NIST in performing voting systems research so that the TGDC can fulfill its role of recommending technical standards for voting equipment to the EAC. This teleconference discussion served the purposes of the CRT subcommittee of the TGDC to direct NIST staff and coordinate its voting-related research relevant to the VVSG 2007. Discussions on this telecon are preliminary, pre-decisional and do not necessarily reflect the views of NIST or the TGDC.] ************ |
CRT Teleconference Draft Agenda:
Attendees: Alan Goldfine, Allan Eustis, David Flater, John Crickenberger (NVLAP), John Wack, Mat Masterson (EAC), Michael Kass, Michael Koo, Nelson Hastings, Paul Miller, Sharon Laskowski, Wendy Havens Administrative Updates (Allan Eustis):
Reliability and Accuracy Benchmarks (David Flater): The document posted on the web (see above) reflects the changes that were discussed at last weeks meeting. David went over several items in the paper. It was decided to keep the 120,000 voting sessions for EBM ballots. There will be a 1 in 500 allowance for paper feed errors/jams. It was decided that there would be no more than 6 errors (failures) allowed of any sort pending Paul Miller's final review. David was planning to finalize document at end of day so any comments were due immediately. E-PollBooks (John Wack): John Wack brought up the topic of e-pollbooks. The EAC requested the TGDC to take a look at writing requirements for e-pollbooks - at a minimum in regards to the use of them for ballot activation. Due to the short time left until the next iteration of the VVSG is due out, it was decided that we could not provide more than high-level requirements. That is what David Flater has done - he has added a device class in the VVSG for ballot activators. The specific questions today were in regards to allowing networked devices, such as epollbooks, to also activate ballots. (The requirement in the VVSG currently states that any part of the voting system can not be externally networked and if epollbooks are used as ballot activators, they are part of the voting system.) Some states are currently using the networked epollbooks to activate ballots. The main concerns are security, availability and privacy. Paul Miller understands the availability issue being a major concern, but also thinks there are possibilities of handling this by having backup ballot activation techniques. This topic will be discussed by all three TGDC subcommittees on April 24th.
[* Pursuant to the Help America Vote Act of 2002, the TGDC is charged with directing NIST in performing voting systems research so that the TGDC can fulfill its role of recommending technical standards for voting equipment to the EAC. This teleconference discussion served the purposes of the CRT subcommittee of the TGDC to direct NIST staff and coordinate its voting-related research relevant to the VVSG 2007. Discussions on this telecon are preliminary, pre-decisional and do not necessarily reflect the views of NIST or the TGDC.] ************ |
CRT Teleconference Draft Agenda:
Attendees: Alan Goldfine, Allan Eustis, Dan Schutzer, David Flater, John Wack, Lynne Rosenthal, Mat Masterson (EAC), Nelson Hastings, Paul Miller, Sharon Laskowski, Steve Berger Administrative Updates:
Discussion of QA/CM Research Paper: This paper has been posted on the web for a week. The material in this paper has not been included in the VVSG yet, it should go to coordinator of paper in the next week. Alan Goldfine discussed the plenary presentations. The CRT subcommittee plans to cover 5 topics: 1) electromagnetic compatibility, 2) quality assurance/configuration management requirement, 3) review of CRT changes, 4) discussion of benchmarks, and 5) general discussion. For electromagnetic compatibility, the requirements are still in the process of being developed. These requirements have been divided into three parts: conducted disturbance (should be completed next week), radiated disturbances (draft set of requirements by March 30), and telecommunications (incomplete, 1st draft by March 30). (Steve Berger forwarded these to IEEE for comments which are forthcoming.) QA/CM requirements raise an issue. The requirements are being done as a result of a TGDC resolution directing the review of QA/CM. At the December 2006 meeting, it was decided that the ISO 9000/9001 standard would be used for quality assurance. This is just the beginning of the process . Details are needed to state what conformance means. Vendor requirements are more specific - required documentation, data delivered to test labs and EAC. The draft requirements state two different alternatives which were discussed in great detail. The first alternative requires that vendors provide their quality assurance procedures ( quality manual) early in the process, before design/development of system begins. The other alternative requires that the quality assurance procedures be done, but there is no specification. The problem identified : if a system's quality assurance procedures are not approved, and the design/development is well on its way, a system may not be approved and there would be wasted time and effort. Opinions were expressed that this did not seem to be a problem, that the real question was if the system passed certification, the manufacturing process must produce systems of the same quality. This topic did not appear to be resolved. It will be brought up at TGDC plenary meeting for discussion and possible consensus. It was pointed out that there was no time specified in the EAC manual regarding the registration process. Mat Masterson will bring this up to the EAC. David Flater then discussed what he would be presenting at the plenary meeting. The first topic would be a review of the changes as discussed at the last CRT subcommittee meeting. David will also be presenting information regarding benchmarks. CRT has received feedback from NASED regarding the question about resetting benchmarks on reliability and accuracy in the next VVSG. Defensible numbers need to used for the benchmarks. The response from NASED in response to reliability said that no failures that lead to unrecoverable votes are acceptable, in other cases, our tolerance for failure depends on how hard it is to recover from those failures, there is no typical volume on which to base a benchmark. We currently do not have a particular volume to base a benchmark; however, if test labs are going to advise rejection of systems that perform unreliably during testing, there needs to be a benchmark for what constitutes an unacceptable rate of failure. With respect to accuracy, we have a real requirement that does not map to a particular benchmark. The acceptable number of errors is 1 less than the vote margin between first and second place. The current benchmark is 1 in 10M ballot positions - this was set as a compromise based on costs of testing. NASED acknowledged the need to review test methods and also expressed concern that 1 in 10M is probably not achievable for real ballots. Since we want volume testing to produce realistic ballots, the benchmark should meet everyone's requirements but also be attainable. Should the benchmark be relaxed so that it is attainable? The route we went through did not produce the data we need to produce defensible benchmark numbers. There is not a lot of time left. At the TGDC meeting, we plan to ask our customers for input about what this number should be. Paul Miller informed the group that NASED had concerns about putting into writing indicating an acceptable rate of failure. There was also a concern about the definition of terms. We have to look at what are "failures". If poll workers can't set up systems, that's a failure. If a printer jams, that's a failure. However, there are manageable failures and those should be identified. David stated that failures were defined as equipment breakdown, including software, so that continuous service is worrisome or impossible. Complete testing of systems in voting environment cannot be tested as we do not know how many types of machines a precinct will have and how many as backup, if any. Failures fall anywhere in a large spectrum. If we ask test labs to try and evaluate the severity of failures, we will get ambiguous results. Any comments/questions should be sent via email. The meeting adjourned at 12:10 p.m. [* Pursuant to the Help America Vote Act of 2002, the TGDC is charged with directing NIST in performing voting systems research so that the TGDC can fulfill its role of recommending technical standards for voting equipment to the EAC. This teleconference discussion served the purposes of the CRT subcommittee of the TGDC to direct NIST staff and coordinate its voting-related research relevant to the VVSG 2007. Discussions on this telecon are preliminary, pre-decisional and do not necessarily reflect the views of NIST or the TGDC.] ************ |
CRT Subcommittee Teleconference* Agenda:
Administrative Updates (Allan Eustis):
Letters to NASS and NASED Regarding Benchmarks (David Flater): It was determined at the end of the last TGDC meeting that we needed election community buy-in of the benchmarks in terms of accuracy and reliability. Letters were sent to NASS and NASED asking for comments/consensus on these issues. NASS has declined to take a position, we have not heard back from NASED. (It was noted that due diligence was taken to get feedback.) Comm. Davidson suggested contacting State Election Directors to find out what they are doing. CRT had been advised by NIST General Counsel not to do this, but it was suggested that EAC might be able to. Comm. Davidson will check with EAC General Counsel.
Discussion of Quality Assurance (QA)/Configuration Management (CM) Research Paper: This paper was written after consensus at the December meeting that the ISO 9000 and 9001 standards should provide the framework for the VVSG 07 requirements dealing with QA/CM. This is a first draft of a set of requirements that attempted to do that. ISO 9000 is a general set of requirements - the real key is to design specific requirements that work for voting systems - that is what this paper tries to do. Alan asked for comments/feedback - did we address key issues, is it outside our scope, did we address everything within our scope? Steve Berger commented that this was going in the direction he had in mind. Steve also wanted to know if a vendor changed hardware/software, did it show up as a version change? Alan noted this specific issue was probably covered in configuration management. It is a valid concern and he will look into it.
Re 1.2.8.6, Philip Pearce asked about the critical parts list of what constitutes a failure of a part or a component - should there be something added regarding diminished accessibility or usability. Alan agreed and asked if Philip would draft up some appropriate bullets.
[NOTE: In 2005, TGDC requested process model - CRT's working draft contains informative process model.] EMC Draft with Outline: Discussion was held at a previous meeting about revisions of electrical requirements within environmental requirements section of the VVSG. It was suggested CRT reach beyond the voting team to experts in the field of electrical equipment testing. We've talked to experts (at NIST) regarding radiated interference and conducted electromagnetic interference. Based on these discussions, we have outlined work and some draft requirements for this area. Alan inquired if there were any general opinions or concerns regarding this outline. Technical questions should be sent via email to Alan Goldfine. Steve Berger questioned if there was any field data about problems currently with these issues? The answer was no, but that should not stop the group from looking into it. Steve also mentioned that there were a lot of "to be determined" specs; including requirements question marks. Alan pointed out that this represented discussion about whether certain topics need to be developed within volume 5 of the VVSG. Are these testing standards or are they specifically testing scenarios. This is a work in progress - all the TBDs will be determined. Comm. Davidson suggested getting comments from the vendors about costs after Alan receives Steve's questions via email. John Wack, Allan Eustis, and Alan Goldfine will discuss offline about bringing this up at the next vendor's meeting. Discussion Draft (Summary of Changes): Revised set of draft requirements are available on the web. (Specifically this is David Flater's material which has been submitted to the editorial team for review and formatting.) The change log file contains a count of things that were changed between drafts. David went over a few of the changes. Biggest change was in the introductory informative text to coding conventions (C language with use of COTs add ons becomes structured language) , and in the follow on changes to the conventions themselves. Other changes (subject to revision) included: data to be provided, functional testing, conformity assessment and use of components. The question was asked if for the definition of EBMs (electronically assisted ballot markers), was consideration given to blindness or visually impaired. David noted that he clarified the definition of EBMs but that the issue with blindness or visually impaired was being looked at specifically by HFP. Meeting adjourned at 12:00.
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